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The Breakdown With NLW Episode

Dan Held on Bitcoin and the Battle Against CBDCs

The crypto exec talks about freedom money vs. surveillance money.

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ABOUT

This episode is sponsored by Nexo.ioCircle and FTX US.

Dan Held is a serial bitcoin entrepreneur, the former head of growth marketing at Kraken and currently an adviser to Trust Machines and other crypto companies. In this discussion, he and NLW talk about the state of crypto narratives, bitcoin maximalism versus bitcoin moderates and why central bank digital currencies are among his top concerns.

Find our guest on Twitter: @danheld

See also: Monetary Authority of Singapore Completes Phase 1 of CBDC Project, With More Trials to Come


“The Breakdown” is written, produced by and features Nathaniel Whittemore aka NLW, with editing by Rob Mitchell and research by Scott Hill. Jared Schwartz is our executive producer and our theme music is “Countdown” by Neon Beach. Music behind our sponsors today is “War” by Enoch Yang. Image credit: Boris SV/Getty Images, modified by CoinDesk. Join the discussion at discord.gg/VrKRrfKCz8.

HOST

Nathaniel Whittemore

NLW is an independent strategy and communications consultant for leading crypto companies as well as host of The Breakdown – the fastest-growing podcast in crypto. Whittemore has been a VC with Learn Capital, was on the founding team of Change.org, and founded a program design center at his alma mater Northwestern University that helped inspire the largest donation in the school’s history.

Nathaniel Whittemore
Dan Held on Bitcoin and the Battle Against CBDCs